JudgeBob

Western Persecution

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I've linked to this post from <a href="http://www.jeremiahfilms.com/BlogWatch/CultureWars/#1116">BlogWatch: Culture Wars</a> at Jeremiah Films site.

Your post is awesome, I've been thinking of putting together a "Why do the nations rage" post.

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.


The abomination that maketh desolation?

With the World Pride events in Jerusalem and earthquakes that followed, coupled with Annapolis...the Temple Mount Wall that collapsed in 2004...the hole in the Temple from 2/15/08 earthquake.

I searched for a time line of Israel current events. Initial finds do not pull World Pride/weather/war-peace events together.
Sure would be interesting to see what inter-relation there might be.

I suppose if I ripped a rainbow flag out of someone's hands, lit it on fire, and stomped on it it would be a crime. However, it is not a crime to rip a cross out of woman's hands and stomp on it and spit on her. The difference: the people with crosses are in the majority and those with rainbow flags are in the minority. Everyone loves an underdog and they have more "rights" in our country than those of us in the majority.
Very good post. These protected special interest groups are getting on my nerves.I don't care what they do as long as they don't throw it in my face. I hate their parades. They are so disgusting. Keep it behind closed doors and between you and God. The public are not paid customers to your side show and they would rather watch the Macy's Day Parade, not yours. Sorry, but showing your disdain for our beliefs doesn't fly in America.
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I just moved to Texas after 40 years in California. Arnold Schwarzenegger was a wolf in sheeps clothing to Californians. They thought they were electing a conservative. What they got was a Kennedy posing as one.

Mormon's never ever in their history have had justice from such religious persecution, yes, even in the USA. They've had their wives and daughters raped, their children murdered, the husbands tarred and feathered at many times over their history. They created a beautiful city out of a swamp that was once bigger than Chicago (Nauvoo Illinois), because people couldn't accept what they believed in they drove them out.

Those of other religions once picked Mormon churches and temples because of the lies and hatred of others, and many many years old talk and good will have minimized these. Ridiculous rumors and stories still abound but those in the know can now recognize hate for what it is. Mormons can now hold the hands of those of other faiths and say "now you understand" and "this is only the beginning." This is no longer a difference in doctrines it is now the very rights of all churches being threatened.

Now all can put away their petty differences and fight for their freedoms, their liberties, and their idea of who their God is. I guarantee you that Mormons would come to the rescue of any church that was in need of defense of their meeting house, with no strings attached, and they would only hope others would join them in defense of their sacred places.

If anyone is interested in how much Mormons love the Constitution and this country and love the idea of liberty and the freedom of religion? Simple, pick up one of their Books of Mormon and open it the book of "Alma" chapter 46 and read about a similar thing happening and its patriotic solution.
I have huge doctrinal issues with both the Mormon and Catholic churches. However, I would willingly die in defense of your rights to worship as you see fit. Your rights are intimately linked to my own. That has never been more evident than it is today. You are correct to relate your constitutional rights have been under attack for the entire existence of your faith. We protestants and evangelicals are valuing your contribution on the defense of national public policy with regard to religious values.
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Well I can't add anything that has already been said except I wish to reiterate this is an awesome post!
In the words of Voltaire: "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it!"
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The point has never been having to agree with someone else's beliefs. The point, at least in this Constitutional context, is allowing everyone the right and liberty to worship and believe according to the dictates of their own conscience. Every church, even Christian, has doctrinal differences that make them unique. If more of them would realize they need to stick together as a community that agrees to disagree about doctrine, but agrees they all need liberty and freedom to worship God in whatever fashion they see fit, then I think the world would be much kinder.

Even Jesus told his Apostles not to rebuke those that were casting out evil spirits without Jesus' or the Apostle's authority. He essentially said they aren't the enemy, stop trying to say they are doing something wrong. They aren't against me, but are on our side. He knew people eventually come around with positive reinforcement than with endless rebuke.

How do Mormon's feel about fighting for this country and their liberties? Ever hear of the Mormon Battalion? Here are the Mormon's recently driven out of their homes in Nauvoo Illinois, their leader murdered, essentially every legal recourse they had blocked by corruption, all the way to the Presidency, they are walking hundreds of miles, many on bare feet, to the desolate Salt Lake Valley, then out of US territory (called the "California territory"), and while traveling they were approached by the US Army, asking for volunteers to help fight the Mexican war. Guess, what? Many volunteered. It was quite large a battalion. They left their wives and children behind and in the car of the others to head down to California (San Diego) to fight a war because their country (which had just betrayed them again) asked them to do.

Whether you doctrinally agree with Mormon's or not, I guarantee you that you want them fighting next to you on your side. They cherish liberty and will fight to the death to preserve it for not only themselves but their "neighbors" too.

Whether you doctrinally agree with Mormon's or not, I guarantee you that you want them fighting next to you on your side. They cherish liberty and will fight to the death to preserve it for not only themselves but their "neighbors" too.

I've acknowledged this since the start of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mormon brothers were notably among the first to volunteer to go. While I don't know of Mormon actions in concern over the Islamization of our culture and government, the sentiment appears to be much like my own. and welcome, it is.
Mormons believe the Constitution of the United States of America was divinely inspired and written by men chosen by God for this very purpose. Sure, these men were imperfect and human, and some even somewhat agnostic, but they had a righteous cause. They also were not lawyers, but farmers and ordinary businessmen, some turned statesmen, but not career politicians. It is the most plainly written legal document ever.

Mormons believe this land is a blessed and cursed land. Blessed with liberty and abundance when the people live righteously and cursed when they give into pride, greed, sexual deprivation and idol worship.

Mormons believe churches have a right to dictate how ordinances, ceremonies, and worship are to be conducted without outside interference, as long as such actions are not perverse or a danger to human life and liberty. They also believe one church has no right to enforce their rules of conduct on others not of their faith (no burkas etc.). They also believe any enforcement is limited to excommunication as its severest form. In other words Sharia law has no place in the USA.

Mormons believe everything is centered on Jesus Christ, the son of God. Salvation only comes through his grace. Accepting him as your savior from sin is a requirement for this to happen. Mormons believe Muslims have a right to worship in their mosques and homes, but do not have a right enforce their rules and limitations on others for their own convenience. They do not have a right to kill their people for apostasy or immorality as they view it. If the secular law says one wife, then you only get one wife.
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Any issue I have with the Mormon Church seems so minor next to all these "No on 8" people who are just so full of hate themselves.

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